Tuesday, February 13, 2007

Carnegie supervisor has sex with clientele

They say that for the working class, life comes down to getting paid and getting laid. In that regard, Carnegie Centre seems to have become a spot for one stop shopping. A female worker there has been earning a pay cheque and having sex with male clientele.

This woman, in a position of authority in relation to volunteers at the City-operated Carnegie Centre, has demonstrated an ability to get male members to volunteer for more than the City intended. This has been raising eyebrows since one of her boyfriends ended up dangling by his neck from a bridge after an attempted suicide and another succeeded in committing suicide. A third boyfriend actually emerged intact from a year long relationship with her, although the relationship resulted in him no longer feeling welcome at the Carnegie Centre where he had been a regular for six years. These three guys are not the only ones that this worker has shown a sexual interest in either. There are others.

The name of the female worker will not be released here as she has not yet had an opportunity to tell her side of the story. She will simply be referred to as the "supervisor".

Dumped boyfriend of Carnegie supervisor dangles from bridge by neck

About 2 1/2 years ago, a native guy who was volunteering in the kitchen at Carnegie attempted suicide when his sexual relationship with the Carnegie supervisor ended. "When she dumped him", says a source, "he tied a rope around his neck and jumped off a bridge down Alexander Street." Now he is a quadriplegic in a wheelchair.

When the native guy was standing on the bridge preparing to commit suicide, police spotted him and “tried to talk him down” says a source. But he suddenly turned and jumped. He was dangling so police made a decision: they cut the rope and let him fall to the ground. He fell onto a stockpile of railroad tracks.

A homeless man who regularly drops into Carnegie Centre has corroborated elements of this suicide attempt. He happened to be approaching the bridge at the time and saw the native guy up ahead, but says, “I didn’t actually see him jump.” He arrived at the scene to see the guy below the bridge: "His feet were on the ground but his back and head were on the pile of tracks."
The Carnegie supervisor did help the guy after he became paralyzed. "She would attend to him everyday," says a source. "Then she got him a place in BC Housing in Burnaby, near where she lives."

Despite his paralysis, the guy has enough movement in his upper body that he "seems to get around ok in the wheelchair.” But he does a lot of drugs, the source adds.

Carnegie members who are now finding out about the supervisor's relationship with the kitchen volunteer are slow to blame her for his suicide. Dagald Walker who drops in to use the library doesn’t know the paralyzed volunteer but believes if someone is prone to suicide, it’s not fair to blame another person for triggering an attempt: "If that guy hadn't tried to commit suicide over her, it would have been over something else."

Another Carnegie volunteer has sex with the supervisor and survives intact

After her former boyfriend jumped off the bridge, the Carnegie supervisor recruited a new one, again from the Carnegie membership. The next guy was caucasian, late forties, living in seniors housing a couple of blocks from the Carnegie Centre. He's a musician who volunteered in the Carnegie Music Program for roughly six years; his involvement included running their Karaoke program.

In addition to being a musician, this man is skilled with computers: he has Microsoft technician certificates, along with assorted other certificates. He was formerly a trucker who, after his experience with the Teamsters telling him he couldn't work on any given day, is quick with a reminder that he is anti-union. Like many people who end up living on the Downtown Eastside, he has dabbled in drugs. He was once a member of the Vancouver Area Network of Drug Users [VANDU] but, according to sources, left because he didn't share their "gimme, gimme, gimme"' attitude toward the government.

Sources have asked that the DTES Enquirer not release the name of this ex-boyfriend. He is "not a kiss and tell kind of guy". So he will simply be referred to here as the ex-trucker.

At times when the ex-trucker was at the condo of the Carnegie supervisor, her previous boyfriend would come by. "He'd show up in his wheelchair and cry," says a source. And she'd hang up on him. Sometimes he'd just phone, but then too she'd hang up on him.

The supervisor is a devout Christian.

"She hates her job at Carnegie," a source adds.

"She's suicidal, alcoholic, and addicted to pills", according to one source close to the relationship between the supervisor and the ex-trucker. "She takes prescription pills to excess." On at least one occasion, she was seen "eating pills one after another while she was drunk." And she has reportedly shown up at the ex-trucker's door drunk.

But the supervisor is an attractive woman in many respects and the ex-trucker spent a lot of time at her condo, an arrangement which resulted in his e-mail account being accessible on her home computer. She took the liberty of entering his account and using it to send an e-mail to a married woman from Port Moody who had become a platonic pal of the ex-trucker. The married woman knew the ex-trucker from the Music Program which they had both been involved in for years. The supervisor, according to sources, told her in the e-mail that a married woman shouldn't be tagging after him like that, that it made him "uncomfortable". But here's the kicker: the supervisor didn't sign her own name to the e-mail, presenting it instead as having been sent by the ex-trucker himself. And of course, it had his e-mail address on it. The supervisor did not suffer any consequences for this mischief. The ex-trucker essentially covered for her; he never mentioned the fraudulent email to the married woman and she never raised the issue.

The relationship between the Carnegie supervisor and the ex-trucker involved frequent fighting. A source recalls that he would be working on his computer and she would be on Messenger with him and he would “just click off."

The trucker broke off with the supervisor for good about a year and a half ago.

Before their final breakup, it appeared that the supervisor had gotten involved with another guy volunteering in the Music Program, Mike McCartney. McCartney, a stellar musician with a crack habit, will be discussed in detail in the next section. Suffice to say that the ex-trucker got a hint of this budding relationship in the spring of 2005 when McCartney mentioned to him that he needed to start practicing for the August dance at the Carnegie as the supervisor had hired him to perform. Volunteers are occasionally paid to put a band together to perform at a Carnegie dance. But here's the kicker: she had already assigned that gig to the ex-trucker. According to sources, the supervisor was getting involved with Mike "and suddenly he had the dance." The ex-trucker told Mike, "I'm doing the August dance." When the ex-trucker raised the issue with the supervisor, she assigned him a different dance. "So Mike took the August dance and [the ex-trucker] was given the September dance."

But later, sources say, the ex-trucker "got screwed out of the dance in December" that the supervisor had also assigned him. She did this by cutting his practice time. "All of [the ex-trucker's] practice dates were gone", says a source. When the ex-trucker couldn't get the practice time he needed, he "threw up his hands and left." He stopped going to Carnegie after that, even though he had been a familiar face there for years. He tried going back once but a source says he "got the cold shoulder" from staff, including Security guards with whom he had previously been on good terms.

The supervisor arranged for others to do the dance that the ex-trucker had given up. But she showed up drunk at his Downtown Eastside apartment, asking him to return his advance. Musicians assigned to a dance are given money in advance to enable them to hire musicians - roughly $30 for each musician - to put a band together. The ex-trucker gave the money back to her.

The ex-trucker never complained to the Carnegie or City administration about the supervisor's conduct toward him. He has put his relationship with her behind him, although he remains a bit peeved, sources say, about what she put his mother through when she was dying of cancer last summer. The supervisor would call his mother and tell her that her son was taking too many drugs and could be kicked out of his apartment. It bothers him to think that his mother died with that on her mind.

An “on again off again” boyfriend of the supervisor succeeds in committing suicide: Mike McCartney

In August 2005, Mike McCartney, the volunteer in the Music Program with whom the supervisor had been involved in an "on again off again" relationship, committed suicide.

McCartney was a 40ish, dark haired, caucasian -- some say Metis -- who had managed to lose about 200 pounds. He was an excellent guitar player. A friend says of Mike: "He persevered over the years and had actually managed to make a living with his music. Then he came to the DTES and got into drugs. When you come to the Downtown Eastside, you can lose sight of your goals."

Mike's death was upsetting to members of the Carnegie Music Program. He had been well-liked and respected as a musician. "I would have looked up to him," says a long term Music Program volunteer, "if he hadn't been into drugs." The volunteer recalls, "He did crack and everything he could get, any cheap welfare high."

This Music Program volunteer who has only recently learned of McCartney's relationship with the Carnegie supervisor, doesn't blame his suicide on that relationship. "Mike told me he wanted to commit suicide" the volunteer recalls. "It was because of his drug problem. He didn't mention anything about a romantic relationship." The Music Program member counseled Mike to "get into a [addiction] program and get around solid people."

The supervisor was not unaffected by McCartney’s suicide. She wrote a eulogy for him in a local publication in which she said his death had not yet fully hit her. [The name of the publication will not be provided as her identity is not being disclosed at this time.] She revealed an awareness of his personal history from childhood, as well as knowledge of his addiction to crack and other drugs. She told him in the eulogy that she missed him and, 'I love you.'

Some male Carnegie members have resisted temptation

There are a few men at Carnegie who have resisted the supervisor's flirtations.

A couple of years ago, there was a flirtation – which a witness says was mutual – going on between the supervisor and a forty-something worker from a local fish plant " He has a classic tall, dark, and handsome look and regularly drops by Carnegie to participate in the Music program or to eat dinner at the cafeteria. Did I mention he has pale blue eyes? A couple of years ago, one of his friends, a fifty-something man who eats at Carnegie almost everyday, made a point of drawing attention to the supervisor’s interest in him: "She likes him," he'd say, giggling. The fish plant worker, who is single, has never mentioned this woman to the Enquirer though. And nothing appears to have come of this flirtation.

Members say the supervisor also fancied a Carnegie Security guard, a grey-haired guy in his fifties. He has not confirmed this though.

Currently, the supervisor reportedly fancies a computer room volunteer. He is a 46 year old caucasian guy, witty and articulate, another one with a classic tall, dark and handsome look, and a reviled ex-wife. He uses crack, although not everyday. He manages to support himself by picking up odd jobs, some of which pay a decent wage according to a friend. This volunteer has never said a word to the Enquirer, but according to a Carnegie regular who associates with him, the supervisor has been exhibiting signs of an attraction. The associate is tight-lipped about details -- "You'll have to talk to him" -- but did mention that he saw an e-mail this guy had received from the supervisor which opened, "Hello love."

This volunteer computer monitor has now been barred for a month from Carnegie with the same lack of due process – i.e. being denied a reason in writing so that he could appeal -- that Carnegie members have been complaining about for years.

Rumours are beginning to swirl as well around a "big Metis guy" who is constantly in the supervisor's office. "She always has one or two [guys] in the wings," says a source familiar with her previous relationships.

The tipping point

Even when this supervisor is not hitting on men, she can demonstrate a reckless disregard for the well being of Downtown Eastsiders whose quality of life she is being paid by the City to enhance. Take the case of a native man who used to sit and carve in front of the drug store across from Carnegie. He now reportedly does some work around the neighbourhood for the City. This supervisor labeled him a “stalker”. Downtown Eastside residents see no evidence that he is a stalker.

Recently, another male member of Carnegie became a casualty of such false accusations. The false accusations emerged after this supervisor and her co-workers suspected him of writing on the internet about their practice of closing doors to services at Carnegie, always with the excuse, "There is no volunteer". He found himself the target of unsubstantiated accusations of sexual harassment, and later of stalking. Members speculated that these accusations had originated with this supervisor who had also falsely labeled him an “abuser” to his face, but could not prove it.

But this was the tipping point.

Several Carnegie members became convinced that this supervisor's credibility had to be more closely scrutinized. That meant bringing her history out into the open. For the first time, sources became willing to talk.

Can anything good be said about this supervisor?

Anyone dealing with this supervisor at the Carnegie would be likely to find her pleasant, one of those perma-perky type personalities.

The supervisor is not a snob. The fact that she is attracted to Carnegie clientele, that she will have a relationship with a Downtown Eastside guy with little in the way of money or social status, is an indication of this.

It is not surprising that this supervisor feels rapport with Downtown Eastsiders. She has some of the problems that are so prevalent amongst Downtown Eastsiders. When running for the Board of the Downtown Eastside Women’s Centre a year and a half ago, she gave a brief speech in which she announced that she was a survivor of childhood sexual abuse. She obviously doesn't consider this history to be a secret: there were well over a hundred people present, along with media.

And the supervisor, like so many Downtown Eastsiders, is the product of less than stellar parenting. Her mother disliked her, a source explains. “She has very little good to say about her mother". When her mother was dying, though, she did take a leave of absence from Carnegie.

With abuse and rejection in her background, masked by drinking and pill popping, this woman would not be out of place socializing with Downtown Eastsiders.

And like many Downtown Eastsiders, she has struggled with her alcohol abuse. She quit drinking for five years but has started again.

Despite her problems, though, the supervisor has what therapists would call, “good self care.” She is always well groomed.

Who knew about the supervisor's sexual relationships?

The relationships that the supervisor was having with Carnegie clientele were a surprisingly well kept secret. Most members had no inkling that this was going on.

One person who sources say may have gotten wind of the supervisor's conduct was Carnegie Assistant Director Dan Tetrault. His common law spouse who is also a supervisor at Carnegie, Rika Uto, and this supervisor were confidantes.

Sex in the City may be affecting delivery of services

On one hand, the male Carnegie members with whom the supervisor has been having sex are consenting adults and their relationships are nobody's business.

On the other hand, how the supervisor is spending her time at work is the business of tax payers who are paying her five figure salary -- especially when services for which she is partially responsible are too often left undelivered. Downtown Eastside residents too often arrive at Carnegie for computer and other services only to find doors locked. So what is this woman doing when not doing what she was hired to do? By her own written admission, she had a daily ritual of spending time in her office with Mike McCartney, joking and laughing and listening to the latest news he brought. And members have noticed that this chronic socializing has now extended to a "big Metis guy" constantly in her office.

The fact that the sex lives of Carnegie staff may be contributing to their failure to consistently meet their obligation to deliver services for which the taxpayer has paid, extends beyond this supervisor. Take another supervisor, Rika Uto, who has some responsibility for the Learning Centre. It is not uncommon for students to simply be told to leave the Learning Centre in mid-day because staff can't get it together to keep it open. On one occasion, Uto stood outside the door socializing as students were evacuated. What other school operates like that during prime learning hours? Despite complaints, Assistant Director Dan Tetrault has never managed to correct this situation. Could the fact that he is literally in bed with Uto have anything to do with it?

And what about the suspension of services at Carnegie to Rika Uto's husband? After Uto got involved with Tetrault, her husband who had in the past occasionally dropped by Carnegie with their young son, showed up in the building. Uto presumably did not want him around because Tetrault barred him from the building at that point and he has never been seen there again. One of the husband's friends was upset about this barring: "Tetrault's screwing the guy's wife and when the guy comes around, Tetrault bars him." It's the friend's perception from conversations with the husband, that Uto was still with her husband when Tetrault took up with her. Here's the problem: the conflict of interest position occupied by Tetrault made the legitimacy of this barring suspect.

Tetrault could no doubt make a case that the barring was justified, that Uto in some way felt at risk. But compare the handling of this case to that of a similar case: A female Carnegie staffperson did not want contact with her ex-spouse and father of her young son, who she claimed had been violent on occasion (a hole he had allegedly punched in a piece of furniture in her apartment had been seen by witnesses.) She reportedly had a restraining order against her ex. But her ex was part of the political in-crowd at Carnegie and guess what? He continued to be allowed to come into the building, although he was restricted from being on the same floor as her at any given time. It's not surprising, then, that at least a perception exists that Tetrault's sexual relationship with a Carnegie supervisor influenced the denial of City services to a taxpayer.

And what about the Carnegie Security guard who was having sex with a female janitor in the basement cleaning supplies closet. Members caught on to their trysts and would snicker. Granted this is hearsay. But this guy's spouse, the mother of his child - not to be confused with the woman in the supplies closet - confirmed it to a relative who then chatted about it at the DTES Women's Centre. "She likes sex," the woman chatting at the Women's Centre said of the janitor in the supplies closet, her point being that the chances of this guy's relationship with his spouse being repaired had been nixed.

Sex in the City supplies closet could have been ignored by Carnegie members, if not for one thing: the building is filthy. In fact, if you ask any resident of the Downtown Eastside why they don't go to the Carnegie Centre, it is common for them to state that they find the place dirty.

City staff's 'Don't ask, don't tell' approach to Sex in the City hit a snag when Carnegie members began squealing about the cleaning supplies closet on a now defunct internet blog. Suddenly the janitor was no longer seen at Carnegie. Speculation was that she had received a lateral transfer.

Sex and social work don't mix

Another argument against Sex in the City is that staff at Carnegie are operating in a social work capacity. They are interacting daily with Carnegie members who have emotional and/or drug addiction issues and should resist recruiting sex partners from this population.

Don't get me wrong, the Carnegie supervisor who has been having sex with male members is not actually a social worker. Like other Carnegie staff, with the exception of Director Ethel Whitty, this supervisor has no credentials as a social worker. She was promoted to her supervisory role from a clerical position, bumped into this job partly because she was next in the union seniority cue.

Even without social work credentials, though, this supervisor will at times find herself in a social work position. She supervises volunteers who may be struggling with drug or alcohol problems. Many volunteers are unemployed and the volunteer program is intended to provide them with work experience, to re-integrate them into society. Certainly her organizing tasks for volunteers at Carnegie would fall under the rubrick of social work: she helps organize events such as Teddy Bear Picnics where participants bring their favourite teddy bear, events which seem to have at least a covert rehabilitation angle. Where is this woman going to draw the line? Will she be tempted to recruit sex partners from the Teddy Bear picnic?

Is City Manager Judy Rogers responsible for allowing sexual harassment at Carnegie to reach a dangerous level?

It is unlikely that the supervisor will suffer serious consequences for sex with male Carnegie members. One source who knows her says, "They won't fire her; she's union. They may give her a lateral transfer."

But focusing exclusively on the supervisor could result in the larger picture being overlooked. Understanding why sexual harassment has been allowed to flourish over the years at Carnegie, requires a review of City Manager Judy Rogers' handling of complaints of sexual harassment and other forms of harassment or abuse. As early as 2001, a paper trail reveals that Rogers was aware that sexual harassment was spiralling out of control at Carnegie. What did she do?

Judge Judy on her performance in Part II of this series to be published soon.


dag said...

The story of The Black Widow has my undivided attention, definitely so since I can't get a date.

Oh, I think I hear someone knocking on the linen closet door. Who, I ask, could she be?

Anonymous said...


reliable sources said...

There are a number of women at Carnegie in supervisory roles in relation to volunteers. They have job titles other than "supervisor" though.

The staff person having sex with volunteers at Carnegie was referred to generically as "the supervisor" in the DTES Enquirer article, as disclosing her exact job title would have identified her.

Anonymous said...

People in a position of authority such as this should be held accountable for their actions. Many of these people have serious mental conditions and being used like this can sometimes push them over the edge. Carnegie needs to get rid of the deadwood and be completely overhauled. Let city hall know your feelings now.

Anonymous said...

[job title deleted by Enquirer editor]is the word you are looking for. At least get it right.

By the way, who shot J.R?

Signed; The Shadow

reliable sources said...


The DTES Enquirer editor deleted the exact job title you provided for the Carnegie supervisor who is having sex with clientele.

We have known her exact job title for some time as we were given her Carnegie business card. This is not a case of us not being able to "get it right", as you suggest. A decision was made not to identify her. So we withheld her job title along with her name and generically identified her as a "supervisor".

dag said...

I mis-typed the best word coined in recent memory: POVERTARIANS.

Read all about it at http://covenantzone.blogspot.com/ "Velvet Fascism."

wassinner@uvic.ca said...


tattletalequeen said...

Guess what the outcome of all of this will be, nothing!!! It's like having the police investigate inquiries of police brutality. I guess some people skipped the classes on morals and ethics.

Anonymous said...

I guess you people have too much time on your hands, which isn't I guess relevant to the fact that you're also liars.

reliable sources said...


You resort to the easy route of ad hominem attack, calling us "liars". You avoid the more challenging approach of identifying specific material with which you disagree.

Our sources were solid for that article. We stand by it.

Anonymous said...

What a loser! How can you criticize ad hominem attacks when your entire blog is based on a series of exactly those using unverifiable, anonymous sources to back them up? Get a life.

reliable sources said...


There you go again with more ad hominem attacks: "What a loser", "Get a life."

You criticize the Enquirer for failing to name our whistleblowers. But whistleblowers require protection in the form of anonymity due to the established pattern of Carnegie staff -- including the supervisor in question and the current Director Ethel Whitty -- of subjecting whistleblowers to ongoing harassment.

Gena Thompson, a Board member at Carnegie, admitted in a comment on the NowPublic.com news site that if a person contributing to the DTES Enquirer comes forward with their name, they are likely to have their computer privileges at Carnegie suspended. She also admitted that she had participated in a Board vote to suspend a man from the Carnegie Learning Centre for allegedly blogging about Carnegie (as it turned out,they targeted the wrong man but they have never revoked his suspension.)

Whistleblowers want to ensure that the supervisor in question stops having sex with clientele. But they need to be protected so that they don't become another casualty of the unethical practices of the Board or City management at Carnegie.

Anonymous said...

what i cannot understand fully is why someone who obviously has deep contempt for the Carnegie centre and its employees would want to come into the centre at all or even why they stay in this neighbourhood. maybe a move to alberta or toronto would suit them better than the DTES. do they really believe that the Carnegie is so bad? would the area be better without it? surely, no it would not. if these people are so competent themselves or can do a better job than the present employees, why not apply for the openings when they arise? it really is so much easier to sit back and complain, especially when it is anonymous and with scant proof of numerous allegations against a variety of people.

reliable sources said...


You're wrong when you say The Enquirer has "scant proof" of allegations made against individuals in our blog. We don't publish anything unless we have credible sources.

We have been more than fair. Our sources were credible enough that we could have named the supervisor who was having sex with clientele. But we didn't because sources did not want to destroy her. The goal was simply to get her to reign herself in.

Anonymous said...

Who gives a DAM who is having sex with who.

Eastside resident

reliable sources said...

Anonymous writes, "GET A LIFE!!"

Tell that to the guy who committed suicide after the Carnegie supervisor's "on again off again" relationship with him. Or the guy who jumped off a bridge and became a quadrapalegic after she "dumped him".

Codes of Ethics in the professions are there for a reason.

There is speculation that you, the person who constantly leaves sneering comments on this blog instructing us to "Get a Life", is a supervisor in the Carnegie kitchen. Could you be the older male kitchen supervisor who had sex with a young woman, Caprice, (roughly 15 years younger) who used to hang around Carnegie; that supervisor knocked her up twice. Or could you be the Security guard who "got her next" as one male member of the Carnegie put it; he knocked Caprice up for a third time but lost interest in her when the female janitor started having sex with him in the basement supplies closet.

reliable sources said...

Institutional Memory

Just last week another witness to this supervisor's recruitment of sex partners from amongst Carnegie clientele came forward, informally. He bumped into an associate of the DTES Enquirer on the street and made some comments. He said he had not actually read the article but he knew of such behaviour on her part when he was volunteering in the Pool Room at Carnegie. He volunteered for decades in the Carnegie Pool room and emphatically stated that the supervisor had not been in her job more than a month, when she was having sexual relations with the President of the Pool Room up at Camp Fuhrcam (sp?). Carnegie takes their volunteers and members on a trip to Camp Fuhrcam lodge every year. Staff who go on that trip are on paid City time.

This former Pool Room volunteer is outspoken and would no doubt allow his name to be made public, but we are withholding it until we run into him again and ask his permission. He still lives on the Downtown Eastside but no longer goes to Carnegie.

Why this man's comments are relevant is that they help establish a pattern of behaviour on the part of this supervisor -- at a time when City staff are attempting to portray the Enquirer writers and sources as a bunch of liars.

This former Pool Room volunteer didn't have long to talk on the street so it is likely that he would have more information to provide if we sat down and interviewed him. He recalls the time in the 1980s when $4,000 went missing from the Pool Room account and he was not satisfied with the answers he was getting from City on-site manager, Dan Tetrault. (Dan Tetrault was not charged but there was one conviction during that period over money disappearing at Carnegie.) Because this man was a volunteer at Carnegie for decades, he has what Linda Trip referred to on Larry King as "institutional memory."